Was HashHu Served With A Lawsuit And Is There A Cover Up

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

There has been lots of Rumors floating around about HashHu.com. A thread was started on the site there that was closed then re-opened for selective posts then closed again.



The site or Veracity who is TDG says its all BS and then started the game of no one knows who owns the site type of thing that reminded me of the Tomico affair that he was not busted and that they named the wrong person who now is in Contempt of Court.



Lets say we don't know who owns HashHu even though we do. Does it really matter to the members who actually owns it or does it matter perhaps more that the site is named in a Lawsuit possibly filed in Toronto. Are they putting their own selfish Financial Greed in front of everyone else if they were sued. ? Do you think they would have an obligation to tell the members ?



Well this site truly has no dealer ties and are completely neutral so we don't mind posting about Tomico or HashHu and asking what you heard or what you think.



So was HashHu served with a Lawsuit filed by Dish/Bev ? Was a Lawyer Retained in Toronto to Defend that possible lawsuit ? If I go or anyone else goes to the Court in Toronto will we find a Lawsuit filed in Court ? Do they care about their members as being the priority or maintaining the flow of cash as the more important priority ? Will TDG or Paramount answer any of these these questions. ?




GS2

[kokes]

Interesting that TheDumbGhey would try to qualify ownership...and then shortly afterward, the satscam site was down....somewho TheDumbGhey's edit on satscam note did not cum through...so he likely put some lies in...of course this can be verified by satscams...

And with TheDumbGhey being associated with Hashu as he is, makes the site less than desireable...and with the rumours flying again...it's time hashu dissolves...one way or another...

C/P
Satscams
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im only interested in posting facts.. according to the many websites
hashhu has been busted in June 2006 and again in sept 2006.
i do remember snatty being busted from a long time ago pre-2005, but i could not find the post(s)
it seems that hashhu has once again been busted and once again with the same amount of evidence as the many other times in the past that its been busted.

everyone wants to know who owns the sites.. they want personal information.
my question is, why does it matter who owns what.
ill tell you who it does matter to. the dark side, so dont help them.
and for the record, I own hashhu and roml0X,, and am thinking about merging them
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Looks like some guy in Buenos Aries owns it;


Registrant:
hashHU.com
Alvear Av. 1891
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires 1113
AR
54-11-4833-2410


Domain Name: HASHHU.COM

Administrative Contact:
hashHU.com, hashHU.com Alvear Av. 1891
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires 1113
AR
54-11-4833-2410


Technical Contact:
hashHU.com, hashHU.com
Alvear Av. 1891
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires 1113
AR
54-11-4833-2410


Record last updated 06-19-2006 10:32:09 PM
Record expires on 01-31-2009

And with that, I say fok TheDumbGhey and fok Hashu...

[DoctorNik]

have no proof, other than some people saying confirming what we've all heard,,

but....

hash has pulled their files (virtually all gone, except for a few) and they've taken down the keys. Their explanation is they are revamping...

hard to believe,, since you can revamp without wiping out..
but, i guess thats only if you know what you're doing,,

(and not under advise of a lawyer).

i agree that if they go hit,, the members should be informed,,,
it's only the lowlife slimes that don't (HUKing)

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I would say that its most likely at the advise of a Lawyer. Experienced Lawyers know you can not win with Files posted or posting of working keys on a site so they will tell you to remove it as a start to eliminate the obvious areas.





GS2

[tux.ninja]

well,clicking his heels together isnt going to cut it this time,, look out folks,, it's just like the movies,,tdg is going to hop in that hot air balloon and leave all the suckers behind

[tux.ninja]

oh and, fuk you kokes

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

a bogus civil suit full of incorrect info won't stop it..




That quote by Veracity ( TDG ) is the beginning of confirming there was a lawsuit served in my opinion but that it is being refered to as bogus full of incorrect information.





GS2

[DoctorNik]

he must be related to tomico then eh??
using the same line anyway..

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I posted this on HashHu just recently.




To the Admins/Mods here, either you are covering up to be loyal or you don't know. I believe you don't know but TDG does. You need to shed your loyality and think what is right for the community and what is right/best for your reputations. Press for answers and do the right thing.


To the members, This site was 100% served with a lawsuit. This site has serious problems. The Plaintiffs will move quickly for an Injunction Order most likely to shut down this site is my thought based on legal past occurances I have seen this many many times before through out many years. If this site disappears next week or shortly after then you'll know why. If it disappears then its over and the defendents will move to make a settlement that can include many things or wait for a Default Judgement. Either way its a bad situation. I want you to have some sort of explaination versus the site disappearing with none leaving you to ask questions no where but on other sites without any real answers.


To Veracity/TDG, I have heard alot of things about you but never really commented until now because I see your behaviour first hand now. Forget your pride, forget your financial interests. Tell the members here the truth or you will always be known for caring about yourself more then the members of the community. Many have accuse you of that before but now you will be able to determined that reputation one way or the other. Maybe you don't care or maybe you never had I don't know. Lets see.


You can bash me, ban me or say whatever you want but this was meant to tell you to do the right thing and is sent with good intentions and in good faith. You have a choice to make and you ought to really think about it.


Close the thread if you want but I will save it because I want people to know you were told now that you could make a choice and to make one people could respect. I hope people respect what I tried to do here and respect what I tried to tell you.



Good luck



GS2





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I can not post on HashHu anymore. Guess I was Banned there for the above post. Atleast I feel I tried to do the right thing.




GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

As it turns out I can't post on that thread I started on HashHau because its been deleted. More Cover up.





GS2

[DoctorNik]

of course it's been deleted..
how else could tdg hide the truth..

I have a bad feeling that a thread like this could be deleted at satscams too..
satscams seems to have been fully supporting tdg and hash in this coverup according to one or two threads at hash,,

sad..

just sad

and people ask me why I left satscams...

[DoctorNik]

I posted a c and paste at dsstester... at least that's one place tdg can't get it deleted..

(besides here)

[Dr. Feel Good]

Posted by
PIMPINnagravision aka Tomico
Coder

c&p from Tomico site



Post from Hashhu

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To the Admins/Mods here, either you are covering up to be loyal or you don't know. I believe you don't know but TDG does. You need to shed your loyality and think what is right for the community and what is right/best for your reputations. Press for answers and do the right thing.


To the members, This site was 100% served with a lawsuit. This site has serious problems. The Plaintiffs will move quickly for an Injunction Order most likely to shut down this site is my thought based on legal past occurances I have seen this many many times before through out many years. If this site disappears next week or shortly after then you'll know why. If it disappears then its over and the defendents will move to make a settlement that can include many things or wait for a Default Judgement. Either way its a bad situation. I want you to have some sort of explaination versus the site disappearing with none leaving you to ask questions no where but on other sites without any real answers.


To Veracity/TDG, I have heard alot of things about you but never really commented until now because I see your behaviour first hand now. Forget your pride, forget your financial interests. Tell the members here the truth or you will always be known for caring about yourself more then the members of the community. Many have accuse you of that before but now you will be able to determined that reputation one way or the other. Maybe you don't care or maybe you never had I don't know. Lets see.


You can bash me, ban me or say whatever you want but this was meant to tell you to do the right thing and is sent with good intentions and in good faith. You have a choice to make and you ought to really think about it.


Close the thread if you want but I will save it because I want people to know you were told now that you could make a choice and to make one people could respect. I hope people respect what I tried to do here and respect what I tried to tell you.



Good luck



GS2
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What comes around go's around !!!!


I have gone around, and now I'm here.


then he goes on to post this below



It's 100% confirmed guys Lance did get served by Bell and Echostar , now he has a few options ,

1. fight it which will be minimum $100k
2. Make a settlement and give up the db of hash.
3.Give them a default and the court will order them to give up the db.
4. Don't give up the db , be in contempt and stay in jail till you give it up.
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What comes around go's around !!!!


the thing that get me is, he is in the same shoe, but he is putting down the guys at hashhu, either this guy is totally nuts, or is starting to believe his own bullshit!

I have gone around, and now I'm here.

[Dr. Feel Good]

I have gone around, and now I'm here.

looking at my post, I see I never added the above line to his the quote, no edit button here so I thought I would mention it.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I'll look to change that so people can edit their posts. It was setup that way from the beginning and was never changed.




GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

You should be able to edit your posts now for a limited period.




GS2

[DoctorNik]

Edited see explanation further down.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Was that posted somewhere DoctorNik or was that said in private by Snags to someone then passed on to you ? I myself have not heard that.




GS2

[DoctorNik]

it was passed on to me,,, but I cannot verify it for sure... I think I'll edit the post..
I don't want to be giving out false information

[Mesquite]

of course it's been deleted..
how else could tdg hide the truth..

I have a bad feeling that a thread like this could be deleted at satscams too..


sad..

just sad

and people ask me why I left satscams...

I don't believe it will Dr.

[kokes]

I don't believe it will Dr.

I agree...not when satscam himself posts over at hashu and then his post was edited by the TurdDancingGuy, claiming that satscan owns hashhu...then TDG closes the thread...satscam did confirm to me that he doesn't own hashhu...

Regardless, it's time the community rids themselve of TDG...he should not be a VIP, Honored Guest or even welcomed anywhere...he is a target and if not already, likely informant...I mean think about it...he has close calls of getting nabbed...his pic and personal info is posted all over the web...and whether vercasity or the other dick name, he continues to post his hearts content...with close association to hashhu which are being investigated now...and with all that, he flurishes and continues to speak his small mind...something is wrong with this picture...so I say, ban the fokker everywhere...he can't be trusted and only takes care of himself...and more jail time is an incentive for him to squeal like a pig...

Hey Mesquite...got your pm over at the other site...but the admin disabled the registration so I can't get in...pm me here or there on a workaround...

And I like the ability to edit gS2...so don't make this a limited time offer...

[Mesquite]

I agree...not when satscam himself posts over at hashu and then his post was edited by the TurdDancingGuy, claiming that satscan owns hashhu...then TDG closes the thread...satscam did confirm to me that he doesn't own hashhu...

Regardless, it's time the community rids themselve of TDG...he should not be a VIP, Honored Guest or even welcomed anywhere...he is a target and if not already, likely informant...I mean think about it...he has close calls of getting nabbed...his pic and personal info is posted all over the web...and whether vercasity or the other dick name, he continues to post his hearts content...with close association to hashhu which are being investigated now...and with all that, he flurishes and continues to speak his small mind...something is wrong with this picture...so I say, ban the fokker everywhere...he can't be trusted and only takes care of himself...and more jail time is an incentive for him to squeal like a pig...

Hey Mesquite...got your pm over at the other site...but the admin disabled the registration so I can't get in...pm me here or there on a workaround...

And I like the ability to edit gS2...so don't make this a limited time offer...

You've tamed down old friend.How come you was so easy on TDG.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

And I like the ability to edit gS2...so don't make this a limited time offer...




You have the ability to edit. The limited time means you have a short period to come back to edit.




GS2

[DoctorNik]

thedssguy
DSS-Newbies Honored Guest Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,826


More info..
Gs2 may think he knows what has transpired, but it was only posted last nite by the owner, in private. There is a very large FTA dealer in Canada that has stepped up to provide legal assistance. The civil suit is as far as it will get, and even that is a weak case, that could be drawn out in court. There will be no injunction due to a key piece of missing evidence, PROOF OF OWNERSHIP! It's one thing to file a civil suit where the respondent must disprove their claims, it's quite another to get a judge to sign an injunction without POSITIVE PROOF of ownership. After seeing the lack of evidence, the highly acclaimed civil litigation specialist IS VERY confident...

so.. it's finally out that he was officially served (the 'owner')..

but.. by tdg posting this.. didn't he just confirm for the judge who the owner is???

this sounds more and more like the tomico crap...

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Well you see they got the wrong owner for the Injunction part based on what he said but looks like the right owner was served with the Lawsuit. I guess I had no idea what transpired.



There is a very large FTA dealer in Canada that has stepped up to provide legal assistance.



And why would that be. Was this very large FTA dealer just feeling sympathetic to the case or could there be another reason.




GS2

[fixer1]

I have been watching this all unfold and just observing how things play out, and I can say that most are forgetting some very basic law. That is this being civil they do not have to sue the owner. They can proceed to sue everyone who has had any kind of authority on that site and they can even sue members as well. It is up to Echo to decide. They can sue them all individually or jointly. They do not have to have evidence beyond a doubt but rather just a perponerence of the evidence showing their position. The fact that some are trying to play these games should make all the staff there very nervous, because all they need do then is pile it all on the staff etc.

I do not care who the FTA dealer is and it does not matter how big he was or is, because the costs to defend these things will go into the millions, and there just are not that many people who would spend that, when it will not be long before the testing is all over, and people will soon run from the chances of getting involved civilly for things.

Yes Lance and the rest will say and do pretty much anything right now, but people only need to look up cases where when the owner of a company can not be found all the people who had any authority were then sued successfully. The mods and admins had better be talking to their own lawyers to see just how this can happen. But for now it looks like a soap opera and the actors are not very good or convincing:rolleyes:

[Quinn_Sucks]

Yes Lance and the rest will say and do pretty much anything right now, but people only need to look up cases where when the owner of a company can not be found all the people who had any authority were then sued successfully. The mods and admins had better be talking to their own lawyers to see just how this can happen. But for now it looks like a soap opera and the actors are not very good or convincing:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure Quinn has some supporting activity in the back ground with that site.

[Mesquite]

I'm pretty sure Quinn has some supporting activity in the back ground with that site.

So do I.........:cool:

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

HashHu now provides a direct link from their site to get Bev/Dish keys with the sole purpose of the keys is to receive and decode the Plaintiff's signal without their authorization and or payment instead of providing it on their site. They (HashHu ) say they did so at the recommendation of their lawyer. I find it very fascinating that a lawyer would suggest that form of aiding and abetting as a solution that would satisfy a Judge against the Plaintiff's assertions that the defendant's activities cause them harm. Would the lawyer be thinking that a link like that supplied by the defendants would not be seen as a liability anymore against the defendants as they are just directing but not providing the keys themselves. ?





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Now I had the pleasure of first hand experience with this DSS legend. I started a thread at DSS-Newbies to state the real status of HashHu after he outright did not tell the truth there. It seems he did not like my Civil posts stating real vs fiction and how the law, courts, and Judges really work/rule. So at HashHu he made these posts to me ( below ) and changed my honored guest title so I am not honored there anymore.


GS2 goes way back to the Den days. He tries to be a know it all. The only thing that I ever see him talking about lately is legal issues. Check out all his posts. He's a wannabe shit stirrer & revels in getting others in shit. He never got over his hero Risestar closing up shop. Now he's just a sour old former shell of himself. He's been such a helpful member here. 47 posts in 3 years, makes him MY hero.NOT




Says you, I read your crap all over the net.. you know damn well what I mean.. don't play the injured party, your shit dont fly here.



He then sent me PMs at DSS-Newbies to trash me and to let me know the admins/mods were close to Banning me there on HashHu even though I have not posted since his emotional outbreak posts towards me there while most of my posts were quite Civil intended to be helpful/informative with legal issues I would think. For now I had to disable my PM function there. Imagine you are going to get Banned for no reason and for not breaking one signal rule simply because he can not handle the truth. If you express yourself on one site your Freedom of Expression at that site can be used against you by him at HashHu for is own personal insecurity. Very Sad but true. What a power trip.



He has a very high opinion of himself because he says in his PM he has done more for the Hobby then anyone else. I can't believe that people would actually lookup to this individual as being some sort of freeware Guru in the community because to me his real underlining purpose seems to be Financial being for himself through all his promotional posts on behalf of some FTA manufacter. Some of them resemble the equilivent to a Paid PR advertising person in my view. Sure he will say he does good for the good the community as a free caring person only but how do you actually buy that line when he was dishonest to the members about the Lawsuit filed.



He says there is no case and that Lance was only 17 when he bought the site so that sale contract is invalid. That is the most ridiculas thing I have heard. Why he would think a Judge would care about that or why he would think a lawyer would bring that up to be embarassed is beyond me because they won't. He need to only look at Adam Lackman who was 15 or 16 when he owned operated sites and was sued successfully. He also says that the Plaintiffs can't prove Lance is the owner amongst other silly things.



I wish Lance success although I think he chances are slim to none. Its too bad TDG can't handle opnions based on case experience which I will claim to say I think I know some. I am familar I think with most past Canadian Satellite cases.



He can not have the best interests of the members there when he does not tell the truth and when the truth is revealed he says such things like there is no case. Reality and the truth can be painful to him but there is a very real case with very real Plaintiffs submitted in a very real Court by very real lawyers. You really have to be a fool not to see the very so obvious evidence from that site the Plaintiffs would have by just visiting it never mind what other evidence they might have to know its a very real serious situation. No one has ever won before against these companies and the conclusion is almost always a settlement between the parties that may include many things. We have all seen that before and we all know you can not out spend the Plaintiffs in Court.



TDG tell the truth if you want to be known as someome who helped the community as much as you think you have.




GS2

[fixer1]

It comes as no surprise to me that the people who are supportive of the lies being spread by some from Hashu, are being pushed by mostly themselves using other nicks to give them more credence. The facts that they know very little of the courts and how things work, just show me that they can not be trusted at all.

If they were to be trying to do the community any good they would come straight out and say exactly what has happened and leave all the BS behind. If anyone has a court doceutte number for this or any of the others that are being tried in the GTA, please post them and I will see about getting the doc's the next time I am in the GTA. I must admitt that I have been not around much lately as I have a father who is coming to an end of his fight with cancer, and I have been really spending more of my time there. But I think that I will have to take a trip to the GTA in the coming months, and if we can get court doc numbers, then I will be able to get the true doc's to post so there will be no doubt about any of this. Then maybe it will finally become evident just what has happened and why it is so.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I saw this posted about TDG at Satscams.




http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/access/123138491.html?dids=123138491:123138491&FMT=FT&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Jun+5%2C+2002&author=JAMIE+JONES&pub=St.+Petersburg+Times&edition=&startpage=10&desc=Spring+Hill+man+faces+theft+charges+involving +TV+cards





GS2

[pentium101]

I've read that same article.

Even though, that article was from 2002, it is still interesting. :cool:

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Here is the Court Docket number:



07-CL-006889
Echostar Satellite
vs
Lancelot Marc Pelletier



I took that over the phone but I am expecting to get a fax in the next couple of days letting me what is available to order. I will try to order the statement of claim and any defense arguement filed. They will then mail what I order to me and I will need a scanner to scan them so this could still take a couple of weeks but I will update you when I get the available list by fax stating what is available to order. I also expect to get a list of available documents on the Tomico case which I understand to be alot so will have to pick a few to keep the costs down. These people should have posted it themselves since its all of Public record and they have the docs available to them at no cost. They have commented on them but on the other hand do not provide them as they seem more bent on a coverup.




TDG should give up his denial because he knows there is a lawsuit filed and has commented on it but he doesn't seem able to step up to the plate and do the right thing.





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

This is a copy and paste of a post that is reported on Tomico Satellite.



Hashhu bust !!!!


I have the papers right here in front of me , I will scan them and post them tomorrow.


Here is the info


Echostar and bell are suing

Lanelot marc pellettier aka lance pellettier aka paramount aka ftasource ,

C.o.b (carrying out busiiness) as hashhu.com, ftasource.com, simplyfta.com.


He was served on Febuary 21 2007 at his home in georgetown , ontario.

He was in default on march 14,2007 after he failed to put in his notice of intent to defend.


On march 29, 2007 he hired Milton A. Davis of the firm Davis Moldaver LLP

On march 29, 2007 Diana Pentz of the firm stated above put in his intent to defend notice.



This is where it sits as of now. We will post the papers in the morning.





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I guess I won't be posting the HashHu Court Docs on HashHu after all. I just got this message there:




You have been banned for the following reason:
None

Date the ban will be lifted: Never



I am devastated. Must have been something I said there from March and the board of directors just got to it. :confused: I know truth hurts but never thought TDG was that fragile. :( I hope its not permanent because he seems like a very stable individual with no past or current problems and to think I might have caused one is very troubling to me.





GS2

[pentium101]

LMAO

I'm sure that you are lying in bed awake at night losing sleep over this. :D

Do what everyone else does and create a new nick over there. Maybe you could use: Riflesmoke2 - RS2. Nobody will know that it's you. hehehe

[diasharp]

BonanzaSmoke?

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Thes Court Docs in these rar files was posted at another site.





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I was told today that there was a statement of defense filed in April so I should be getting the statement of claim with the allegations by the Plaintiffs along with the defense statement that usually denies the claims alleged in the next week hopefully.





GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Here is the Statement of Claim and Statement of Defense. Its normal to deny claims. Here Lance denies being Paramount. I think that will leave it open to others possibly being dragged in to state that he is Paramount. Lance would also have to testify under oath that he is not Paramount if this continues along.



I disagree with Paragraph seven the status of the plaintiff as being in accurate in the defense filed. Previous case law clearly shows the US plaintiffs have the right to Civil Action under section 18 of the Canadian Radio Communication Act and defendants are not excused from culpability under the Radiocommunication Act for assisting others in Canada to Pirate Signals where they are from Canada or the US. The Supreme Court in Canada made that ruling in 2002.



I am thinking there will be a hearing coming for interim Injunction Order against the Defendants.




GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

I believe there is a separent lawsuit filed by Bev seeking 10 million dollars in damages also. I would think the complaint and defense would be similar.




GS2

[Mesquite]

I believe there is a separent lawsuit filed by Bev seeking 10 million dollars in damages also. I would think the complaint and defense would be similar.




GS2

So...another HiTec wannabe bites the dust.LOL

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Paramounts explaination as he sees it.



Okay, first let me say this. Dish Network and Bell Expressvu have sued a person they believe is me. I am listed as a defendant
under the name Paramount in 2 separate lawsuits for 10 million dollars each. They are trying to say that a person named Lance owns this website, and they are going under the assumption that Lance is paramount and that paramount owns this site.
I did say I owned this site at one point or another, I believe I may also have told a friend once or twice that I own the dallas cowboys and miami dolphins as well. Lance, the person who was served with the 2 lawsuits from Bell Expressvu and Echostar has never admitted to owning HashHU. Infact if you look at the registration information for HashHU.com there isn't a single mention of anyone under the name Lance or anyone living in Ontario which is where the lawsuits were filed.

To make things a whole lot simpler I, paramount, will come right out and say it, I am Lance and I will tell you everything that has transpired over the course of the last 6 months up until today. I am also going to bet $50,000 that this statement ends up in court, because up until this point, almost every post I have made has ended up in a binder and given to the justice to read not to mention several hundred pages of posts from satscams, rom 10x, dss-newbies, sat junky and so on. Joe Blow makes a post stating that he knows that a guy named Lance owns HashHU than it ends up in evidence. What a great country we live in. Dish Network and Bell Expressvu can fabricate their own evidence to how they see fit to show that Lance is Paramount than present it to the judge and say look, this guy said it, it's true.

Anyways, on to what has transpired.

On February 22nd 2007 I was served with a lawsuit from Echostar LLC as well as Nagrastar LLC and Echostar Technologies, this was 1 lawsuit with 3 plaintiffs. I was woken up around noon to what I thought was some construction workers getting ready to do some work on my house. Instead this guy introduces himself as JJ Gee from Nagrastar which is when I thought to myself "shit, the gigs up", I was surprised as hell to see them, although I knew hashhu was probably the biggest thorn in their side when compared to the hundreds of other satellite sites that are identical in nature to HashHU. I was told by supposed head of signal integrity JJ Gee that HashHU was the largest satellite site in North America and that's why they came to me. The 3 guys standing at my door handed me business cards, one said Wayne Gow head of investigations for Bell ExpressVu Field Security or something like that, the other was Jason Dumbdreck, Vice president of King Reid Private Investigators and the other was JJ Gee, head of security and field investigations from Nagrastar. JJ Gee did 98% of the talking that day.

The first thing that was said was that they had no intention of carrying out litigation against me if I was willing to work with them. The second thing JJ Gee said was that if I didn't want to work with them bell would also be suing me for 10 million dollars in a seperate suit and they would take down this site with an injunction within the next few days after february 22nd. JJ Gee told me that he thought we could come to an agreement that would be beneficial to all parties, and asked if I was willing to talk with them about working with them. I agreed to talk to them because I wanted to see what they had to say and what they were going to offer me. We had the meeting at Tim Hortons down the street from my house. The first thing I said was I wanted a non-prejudice meeting agreement signed by JJ Gee and Wayne Gow, in this they agreed to keep the meeting private as did I, they also agreed anything I said in the meeting couldn't be used against me in court.

The point of meeting me with 3 people from their side was to intimidate me into working with them, wayne gow and jason dumbdreck only talked when I talked to them. JJ Gee told me if I told anyone that I was even sued or approached by dish network than they would just sue me and forget about working with me. I asked JJ Gee what he wanted from me and he said he wanted to buy the site from me, he wanted information on SI Leaker, and he wanted me to act as a rat for dish network. I asked how much money he was talking, first thing he said was 20 grand cash for the site, no papers, bill of sale or nothing, they give me the cash and I give them the passwords. I said I've had offers of over 100 grand for the site. He said if they sued me I wouldn't have any offers at all, so the draw to sell to them for 20 grand was just so I wouldn't be sued. I said I was better off to just sell the site tomorrow for my previous offer. He said he would still sue me. I said I would fight them till I had to declare bankruptcy and they wouldn't get a dime. At this point he made up some bullshit story about how if they win a judgement against me it will be considered fraud and it will stay with me for life. I told him I wasn't an idiot and I knew that wasn't true. Than he told me he thought we could work something out close to my figure if I met with the 3 of them at their lawyers office, he said he had the cash the same day ready to give to me.

I asked them what about ratting people out, what was their plan for that. He said I'd get cash under the table for every person I ratted out. They didn't tell me how much, JJ just said it was enough to pay the bills. At this point I told them there was 1 person I wanted to tell I was approached by dish network and show the papers to and that was David Fuss. For those of you who don't know this person, he is the owner of Ariza Technology, probably the largest dealer of satellite equipment in canada over the last decade. I had been buying items from him and got to know him along the way. JJ asked why I wanted to tell David Fuss. I told him that I was going to probably have David's Lawyer look at the lawsuit they served me with and than I would be able to tell them more about working with them and that I'd rather meet with their lawyer after my lawyer has looked at the papers. As soon as I said the words "David's Lawyer" JJ got all uneasy and told me absolutely not. I said than what do you want me to do? Get Joe Blow out of the phone book to look at the papers and tell me what he thinks? That's when JJ handed me 2 business cards. The first was Ian Angus who originally did work for the satellite companies but now apparently defends for people accused by them. The second was Charles Wagman, another person who is defending in other cases like Echostar vs. SkyHigh Electronics. Obviously this looked kind of funny to me. Did JJ think I was stupid enough to use any lawyer the people suing me were recommending rather than a lawyer who has proven his effectiveness against the satellite companies? The only case Davids lawyer has come close to losing regarding satellite was against the governor general of canada in an effort to declare several sections of the Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Code unconstitutional, not against any satellite companies and he has been involved in several cases with them. I asked him if it was even legal for him to say we will only settle with you if you use this lawyer.

This is when I started to feel better about everything that was going on, as soon as I saw JJ's reaction to the words "David's Lawyer" I knew they had next to no case against me. I than asked JJ why he didn't want me to use David's lawyer, Milton A Davis. He said he didn't want David to know I had been approached by them and if David found out, they had no interest in working with me and they'd sue me and take down the site, etc. I asked them at that point if David was one of the people they wanted me to rat out, and JJ said he would talk to me about that later. I said he is the last person I would rat out even if I did have any knowledge of illegal activities on Davids part, which I don't. David has treated me 10 times better than anyone else in the satellite business. I asked them about Jung Kwak, owner of Viewsat, if they wanted him too, JJ said yes. On a side note, I'd like to add that I have been treated like shit from Viewtech and Jung Kwak ever since I let Jung know that I had been sued. I was ignored for months and only after Jung has also been sued he started talking to me again, there will be more I have to say about Viewtech and Jung Kwak in a future post. Jung Kwak has contributed to Echostars anti-piracy efforts indirectly despite my best efforts to stop him from doing so.

The meeting ended with me agreeing to come to their lawyers office in downtown Toronto to look at a settlement they were going to offer me. I called JJ about an hour later and told him I would not be coming to their lawyers office without my own lawyer present and I told him I wanted to reschedule the meeting for 3 days from now until I could find a lawyer. I really only wanted to delay them 3 days as this would give me time to talk to David and Davids lawyer. I called David up the next day and got his advice. I decided I was going to fight Dish Network, I called JJ back and told him I found a lawyer and he was looking over the lawsuit and would get back to me on it, and I needed another few days. JJ asked who I was using as a lawyer and I told him my lawyer will contact your lawyer. This is the last time I talked to JJ or anyone else from Dish Network, Echostar, Nagrastar or Bell ExpressVu, February 25th.
My lawyer contacted their lawyer and that's when JJ knew I was not going to work with them as I was using Milton A Davis as my lawyer. Around March 15th I was served with another lawsuit from Bell ExpressVu which was identical except for they changed "Echostar" to "ExpressVu" all over the lawsuit, they used the same lawyer for both cases. Milton filed a statement of defence in both cases and at this point that is pretty much the extent to what has happened, my lawyer has not heard from the other side in months.

As it stands now they are apparently visiting people of interest in US and Canada trying to collect more evidence linking Lance to Paramount because at this point it's 100% heresay.

I said I'd post this at 11pm so here it is, I was not able to get 100% of what I had to say in this post but I will be saying more shortly.

Dish Network and Bell ExpressVu are trying to wage war against the community and this site with propaganda, this is the first round of our own style of propaganda, the truth, and that in the end is what will help us put a stop to the assault Dish Network has been dishing out in the last few months, I do regret staying silent for so long on this issue and I apologize for keeping the community in the dark on this for so long. If I had of spoken sooner their propaganda war wouldn't be so strong as it is right now, in the future I will let everyone know everything right away.




If your not Paramount then why on earth would you go have coffee to entertain a proposition. Logically I would think you would just tell them when they came that you have the wrong person go away.



Why would Paramount be posting to tell a detailed story how they visted lance if hes not Lance. One way or the other hes going to have to atleast explain this relationship between the two. I wonder if Lance is doing this with his lawyer's consent. He does have a good lawyer.





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[Rev E]

Makes you wonder?

[DAB]

HashHu...Is back on line... Saludos..

[Guess Who®™]

HashHu...Is back on line... Saludos..

Must be only to certain users. I checked the site, and got an error on the page.

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Must be only to certain users. I checked the site, and got an error on the page.

http://hashhu.info/forums/

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http://hashhu.info/forums/

Works now thanks BT./