Operation stolen domain recovery

[rustypupper]

diamond
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newcardnews
i see ww.dishnewsonline.com still redirects to newcardnews.
i then read this thread.
http://www.dishnewschats.com/showth...=&threadid=4726
Then i did a few searches and noticed people are giving news quotes straight from ncn and posting it on this site.
Example
http://www.dishnewschats.com/showth...ght=newcardnews

I even see others starting to talk about ncn at other sites as a source of information. I see some known names posting at ncn such as GS2 and Risestar and I then saw a post there from Royce at NCN saying hello. I have seen very few warnings about the site and i believe many are starting to believe it is a legit site.
So is Newcard news the guys who stole the domain?
Is newcarddude a toTAL LIAR?
Royce was that really you posting the hello?
It seems to me that out of respect for Royce and for security reasons people should avoid that site (atleast use a anon proxy)



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02-05-2005 01:17 PM



Royce
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they are the prime suspect since my stolen domain is pointing to them.
No I do not go there and that "hi" is not from me.



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02-05-2005 02:21 PM



Neo
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So is Newcard news the guys who stole the domain? - PROBABLY
Is newcarddude a toTAL LIAR? - YES
Royce was that really you posting the hello? - NO



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02-05-2005 02:25 PM



diamond
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thank you for the fast response. I will not believe anything from that site and i surely do not reccomend anyone supporting them and i believe andone buying from them should have there head examined



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02-05-2005 02:40 PM



Kofan
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NewCardNews: Things to think about...
Those people whose private email addy only started receiving SPAM after the theft of Royce's domain, will realize that NewCardNews also managed to get hold of that email in order to "announce" the creation of their new site.

I also tend to be very suspicious that they are involved. As far as not posting Warnings, I feel they are simply not worth giving the free publicity to - although we did call BS on at least one of their "News Items" (cough, hack !) - which you can read more about by clicking here !


Kofan



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02-05-2005 02:42 PM



Yankee_NY
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02-05-2005 05:10 PM



JeffyJoe
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is that really GS2 posting there?
now that we know Royce did not post there, how many others are being plagiarized?

I happen to know for a fact, you can simply program the server to: if anyone calls for dishnewsonline.com forward to...
can this not be asked of them?
this can be done even if it is already forwarded to them without their consent, as they claim...
has this been asked of them?



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02-05-2005 07:25 PM



DNKS
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Originally posted by JeffyJoe
is that really GS2 posting there?
now that we know Royce did not post there, how many others are being plagiarized?
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I for one refuse to get involved with that site, but the bulk of the recognizable Nicks you see there are in fact who they are. And to your question, yes that is GS2 posting over there along with many others.

Remember keep your friends close and your enemies closer!!



DNKS



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02-06-2005 11:56 AM



Eternal
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GS2 fits right in over there. With the exception of some good legal advice all GS2 ever does is cause shit and argue with people.



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02-06-2005 05:39 PM



porkchop
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Originally posted by Eternal
GS2 fits right in over there. With the exception of some good legal advice all GS2 ever does is cause shit and argue with people.
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Hey I've known GS2 for many years an never once had any problems. Everyone has faults but to be critical of others is incorrect. Now you have maybe an issue with em. I for one like the legal issues isn't that what were all about here (idea's&answers)? Seems that your comments that he belongs over there may be a bit off. You must have been over there also. Myself I can't say that I have. No interest to me.

[NewCardDude]

This is what I call free publicity! sweeet, did this come off of anotrher site? Did it get a lot of hits?

[crashoverkill]

First old ass news
second do you care about anything other then hits and ratings?

[rustypupper]

http://www.dishnewschats.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5643

[NewCardDude]

cool

does it bother them?

[rustypupper]

Gunsmoke2 - GS2
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It seems to me Eternal must be refering to himself as far as causing shit but on the good legal advice I'll take that as a compliment. Eternal if you don't mind I have help so many over the years with scammers to the point of taking funds out of my pocket to help innocent victims that I don't even know at times including just recently with victims posting on this site but not quite sure what you have done.





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You must have been over there also.
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Its common for some to register and post there under a different nick then say they never been there.



GS2

[NewCardDude]

Rusty what is it that you want to know?

Yes it is no secret, Gs2 is someone that I know in person and am friendly with. Gs2 has thousands of posts on my board (newcardnews) and is a proud active member since last year.

Is there anything else the people over at your site with domains that point here would like to clarify?


This could be fun hehe.

[rustypupper]

no im am very familier w/gs, i am just posting the replies back and forth tween the sites for info-thats all ;-)

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by rustypupper
no im am very familier w/gs, i am just posting the replies back and forth tween the sites for info-thats all ;-)

Oh ok that's cool.

u like the music that blasts when making a reply?

[rustypupper]

no i hate the noise-i dont even know how or why u called it music but thats the norm for kids thesedays-they have no idea what music is

now on with the post

beachbozo
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it is not who post there but what is posted. for the most part from what i have seen there is pure b.s and nothing more so .that sums up the importance of the site. if they are responsible for hijacking your site i would think any decent member here knowing that info would refrain from being a active poster at a hijack b.s site that seems to be run by crooks

[NewCardDude]

Wow , it is getting heated up over there. I love the way that nobody can ignore us, no matter how long they try, they eventually have to open a thread about ncn and it always turns out to be the most active thread of the week or however long it lasts on another site.

All in the name of traffic, I love it, and thanks to whoever pointed their two domains to my site, I get a large amount of hits from those 2 names, I see in my referrers list when I check my stats. It is because those 2 domain names were listed all over the place and on sites like astalavista and other hacking type sites. The both names are very optimized when it comes to search engines and links in and out.

keep us up to date with the chitter chatter over there at the other site, let's see how angry they can get when they realize just who the top posters are here at ncn :)

I love every second of the controversy. Love it.

[rustypupper]

Gunsmoke2 - GS2
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Decent members are the ones who supported Royce in this forum when the domain was stolen and activily tried to help Royce get the domain back.




GS2

[DirtyFag2]

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[rustypupper]

beachbozo
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i wouldn't want to put words in your mouth but are are you saying that knowing that newcardnews is run by a thief and is nothing but a total scam site makes suporting it by posting there and helping the thief stay up and running by increasing his ad revenue is decent and supportive of this site? maybe i missed something but as i remember this is a different site as the previous post indicates and that going to Royces old site still brings you to ncn if so it seems that Royce never got his old domain back but switched over to his present one here instead of hasseling with some low life thiefs at ncn is this what you mean?



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02-07-2005 06:00 PM



Gunsmoke2 - GS2
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No what I said is that the real decent members are the ones who supported Royce here and on other sites and tried to help him get back his domain back when it happened. I personally spent a great deal of time trying to help Royce through law enforcement and lawyers. I helped Royce get in touch with the number one prime suspect at the time. Unbeknown to you came very close to getting a confession. What exactly is it that you did again ? I don't recall you posting about the stolen Domain before did I miss something ? would you like to help now ? in a real way ? I can give you some things to trace and investigate if you want to spend some of your time and help Royce. I noticed its two times you have posted knowing all about NCN. Do you just go there to read all the time ? and report back here ?




GS2

[NewCardDude]

keep it comming, we are getting a lot of hits today because of that thread over there, I hope the guys there keep it alive, this is nice, real nice.

[crashoverkill]

First off
NCN had nothing to do with stealing hte domain
Second many chipped in time and intell to Royce to try and assist getting teh domain back. Third that post seems to read allot like dirtyfag2 from here. Go figure NCD showed DirtyFag the door so now he is at Royces stiring up old shit

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by crashoverkill
First off
NCN had nothing to do with stealing hte domain
Second many chipped in time and intell to Royce to try and assist getting teh domain back. Third that post seems to read allot like dirtyfag2 from here. Go figure NCD showed DirtyFag the door so now he is at Royces stiring up old shit

Perfect, my plan works itself out, ban the fag and let him cry at other sites , all driving traffic here from external links into ncn.

nice.

[crashoverkill]

ummm
yea like you can think that far ahead

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by crashoverkill
ummm
yea like you can think that far ahead

Sure I can, remember what I did with that p4 guy back in october? I posted all his info and banned him then he went to like every site out there to complain, my ratings went through the roof.

Crash, you are talking to a marketing major here, not some dss nerd.

I could not give a fuck about all that technical bullshit, I am in it for the buck thats it thats all.

[crashoverkill]

Actually I thought you was in it for the fuck

[rustypupper]

Kofan
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Re: NewCardNews: Things to think about...
First off, let's revisit what I said earlier:



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Originally posted by Kofan
As far as not posting Warnings, I feel they are simply not worth giving the free publicity to - although we did call BS on at least one of their "News Items" (cough, hack !) - which you can read more about by clicking here !


Kofan
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NewCardDude
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NewCardDude is now Online:

Wow , it is getting heated up over there. I love the way that nobody can ignore us, no matter how long they try, they eventually have to open a thread about ncn and it always turns out to be the most active thread of the week or however long it lasts on another site.
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Now, reading how happy "NewCardDude" seems to be with himself over this thread, let me add his post sounds more than a little pathetic. We, and the testing community for that matter, need NCN like we need a hole in the head.


I'll go back to ignoring them now...


Kofan


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[crashoverkill]

Do me a favor
tell dirtyfag2/beachbozo to keep his dumb ass there or anywhere else other then where I am would you please. The guy has an iq lower then the wattage of most light bulbs in my home and there burned out

[rustypupper]

Yankee_NY
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Originally posted by rustypupper1219
crashoverkill
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crashoverkill is now Online:

First off
NCN had nothing to do with stealing hte domain
Second many chipped in time and intell to Royce to try and assist getting teh domain back. Third that post seems to read allot like dirtyfag2 from here. Go figure NCD showed DirtyFag the door so now he is at Royces stiring up old shit
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Ahhh....traffic disruption---- miserable people again???

Steaming shit which ends in a Pile of Poo.......


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SCAM ARTIST spacetwister3m



AS OF 1/3/2005 spacetwister3m -- ONCE AGAIN-- TARGETING THE DSS COMMUNITY/ NEWBIES SENDING OUT FALSE IMFORMATION YET AGAIN AFFILIATING ROYCE'S EMAIL WITH spacetwister3m.

Royce DOES NOT sell, ENDORSE OR RECOMMEND ANYONE AT ALL


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02-07-2005 11:23 PM



JeffyJoe
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Considering all of the posts made here are being copied and commented on by those in charge at NCN,
I would like to see the answer to my original question,,,…:



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I happen to know for a fact, you can simply program the server to: if anyone calls for dishnewsonline.com forward to...
can this not be asked of them?
this can be done even if it is already forwarded to them without their consent, as they claim...
has this been asked of them?

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I’d like to know if they could do this,,,… is it worth the extra hits(which HAVE to be slowing down to a dull trickle by now) to do the right thing

[HITEC]

i notice Pearlman is over at Royces site singing his own praises like usual, i guess cause some people dont understand why he can have his head up both Royces ass and Froggys at the same time. Froggys more so because he knows if he yaps about Froggy, then all froggy has to do is take a half an hour drive over to 40 Cresent Circle in Hudson and set MR Pearlman straight.

I challenge anyone to find just one post on this site from Pearlman that helped anyone watch tv or anything else related to satellite tv. Just one post is all i ask... i dont think it can be done... especially here on this site where all Pearlman does is fight. Prove me wrong and not by argueing over and over and repeating the same old crap... show us one post and a link to it so we can confirm. Ill bet its easier to find a needle in a haystack than to find one helpful post by him

[crashoverkill]

Same could be said about yourself lowtech
all Ive seen you do for years now is obsess over Gs2 and risestar. And kiss the frogs ass of course. Your great accomplishments in dss........hmmm posted allot of peoples personal info and ban anyone from hitec that dont agree with your way of thinking. Ive never see you personally do jack shite. Just like froggy another person taking credit for others work. Looser

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Its always a sure sign when Quinn is starting to lose it when he goes to people going visit people. This is great. :cool: Quinn is it true your Banned at Royces so did you register again to notice. Quinn is it true you get on your knees everyday for NCD. Did you get tired of lackman.




because he knows if he yaps about Froggy



Yap yap Froggy. Quinn call him up now to go visit me. Quinn I'll take your challenge and extend it to you as certaintly your have no problem with helping people get FreetV do you. :eek: I'll make a post then we will expect to see yours with the same challenge. So lets begin the challenge.




GS2

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Hello Everyone.



The best way way to get Echo Freetv is to buy either a Blackbird or a pansat receiver. For those who want a ready to go receiver without worrying about some mod to do and money is not a problem then buy a Blackbird receiver. If doing a mod is not a problem and you would like to save money then buy a pansat. Both are cardless solutions that will unscramble Echo's signals and allow you to watch Echo Freetv.




GS2



Ok Quinn so lets see your post that will help people watch *FreeTv* just one post Quinn :p

[crashoverkill]

OMG NOW thats foken funny
I personally enjoy my Card sollutions as fta has been a pain in the arse with my SW64 switches

[mr will]

Originally posted by NewCardDude
This is what I call free publicity! sweeet, did this come off of anotrher site? Did it get a lot of hits?

[mudbug_kid]

the reply tunes suck kokes ass and smell like cat shit,, how about so angry aryans?????

[crashoverkill]

hell Id settle for some ac/dc myself
Hey lowtec now if all your saying is so true why did I find this bs on your site.........oh and banning my ip dont work it just slows me down a hair. There is more but I think people will get the idea of your BS just from this little snippet alone. You have made all kinds of claims here but the truth comes from your own forums it seems to me.

Now that we are basically 1000 members again give or take a few i would like to reiterate one big rule We no longer discuss hacking of any type of thing here anymore in hopes of avoiding any further issues that could develop as a result of this forum Its bad enough that i am still basically involved with the ongoing Dish vs NDS lawsuit that may very well take years to play out and involve depositions of many individuals that used to be big players in the business, i just dont want the hassle anymore Clearly the last year and a bit has shown that open piracy of any sort is being policed quite effectively not only in satellite

[NewCardDude]

lovin this free traffic, thanks guys and special thanks to "whoever" redirected the both domains right over to ncn ;)

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

Its bad enough that i am still basically involved with the ongoing Dish vs NDS lawsuit that may very well take years to play




I think that is Super. Actually considering your Defaulted you might not have wait years having a nervous breakdown as they might exercise their Default Judgement against you much sooner and end your misery while they take your house away. :p



Hitec can we expect your helpful post on how to watch Freetv soon in the near future or maybe a PR post about the evils of Piracy and the effective crack down by police forces which will surely make John Norris of NDS very proud of you. ;) Maybe he sent you a extra bonus for that statement below as I surely see that as a bonus winner.




Clearly the last year and a bit has shown that open piracy of any sort is being policed quite effectively not only in satellite




GS2

[jeffyjoe]

Frog…
I have seen my posts c&p over here…
Several times I have asked you the same question, but so far it has been unanswered.
I understand, from Royce and yourself, that you have said you have no knowledge, of the guy that stole his domain, and you have stated later, when the P4 scam page that it was directed to changed and was redirected to your site, that you had no knowledge of the perpetrators, and it was obviously someone trying to discredit your site and make it look like you stole it…
These are your words..

This being the case
I do have a hard time believing you would not do anything you could to right the situation…
And help Royce out in any way you can…
I know you have a history with Royce, as you advertised for free on his site for quite a while, to build your site up,…
I know that you kind of owe it’s beginnings, and the large amounts of hits he sent your newly created site… all for nothing, as Royce was only trying to help you out, without ever expecting anything in return… that’s just Royce…
You may or may not know this, but it is a really simple thing to do on your server…
You basically tell your server, if anyone calls(receives) the address dishnewsonline.com, redirect it to dishnewsonline.tv.
Takes no more then 5 seconds to do… if you need help, I can help you, or just ask one of the guys hosting your server.
This would put mud on the faces of all those accusing you of stealing his site…
And of course it is the right thing to do, after all you do owe him for all the help he gave you when you were starting out, and he has never asked a thing of you, because that’s the way he is.


JJ

[Blaster]

That would be the right thing to do...

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by jeffyjoe
I do have a hard time believing you would not do anything you could to right the situation…
And help Royce out in any way you can…
I know you have a history with Royce, as you advertised for free on his site for quite a while, to build your site up,…
I know that you kind of owe it’s beginnings, and the large amounts of hits he sent your newly created site… all for nothing, as Royce was only trying to help you out, without ever expecting anything in return… that’s just Royce…
And of course it is the right thing to do, after all you do owe him for all the help he gave you when you were starting out, and he has never asked a thing of you, because that’s the way he is.

JJ

What in christs name are you babbling about? Is this some front page news that I should write about "Royce Willingly Helped NewCardNews" First off, I don't know your royce, and never had any help from this guy for my site. Although this would make for some hot, shit disturbing news, don't you think? I like your creativity hehe, not too bad.

I never advertized on your friend's site, ncn was spammed many many times a day for a few months and that is how I got my hits. The spam got people talking all over the place about how "horrible we were" and more posts all over thus exposing our site to extra traffic from curious people on the web. (the people that were not on the dss master email list)

That is how this foundation was built, spam, spam and more relentless spam, beautiful unstoppable spam, filling up the inboxes of the "community" . I adore spam, how about you?

[mudbug_kid]

SPAM, about all an your nigger kokes can afford.

new frog and his monkey troope

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by mudbug_kid
SPAM, about all an your nigger kokes can afford.

new frog and his monkey troope

whats with all this nigger shit you are typing lately?
Are you some sort of bigot or something?

[mudbug_kid]

lmao,, tryin to speak ya lang,,am i getting da hang of it OG

[crashoverkill]

LMFAO
The mudBug is playing parot.............LMFAO mimicking a frog TFF

[rustypupper]

Kofan
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That is how this foundation was built, spam, spam and more relentless spam, beautiful unstoppable spam, filling up the inboxes of the "community" . I adore spam, how about you?
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that just about says it all... ooops ! I almost forgot - I'm ignoring them.


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02-12-2005 10:27 AM



JeffyJoe
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that was the first and only post i will ever make there...
he denied advertising on Royce's card chart,
and did not answer the question I asked him...

just dwelt on one small twisted comment ->
advertise also equates card chart advertising... (this was what I meant)

as to my question, i suspect we will never hear him answer it...
this is the only way he can save face…

to say no, would admit condoning the theft, hence partial blame in the first place (or at the very least.. second place)
to say yes (to do the right thing) is apparently not an option or else this would have stated so immediately, without trying to draw attention away by citing a slight anomaly in my post as he did.



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02-12-2005 07:17 PM



CrashOverKill
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NCD didnt steal teh domain..........he doesnt have then computer savvy to do so. He does have a rather thick pocket book and willing to pay top dollar for things he wants. I have strong suspicians who controls the domain name but no proof. And yes it is a freind to NCD and other site owners the domain has pointed to sence its theft

[crashoverkill]

And your point is?????????
Your good at Copy and PAste........OR you pointing out to ncd what he has allready said..............He has the bucks and willing to spend them when he wants something bad enough

[rustypupper]

02-12-2005 07:46 PM



Eternal
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I can't understand why he pays top dollar for anything to do with that site. It is a ghost town over there with the exception of the few people who like to bash NCD and each other. I highly doubt any of his sponsors are getting sales from NCN members so I doubt he is making any money from it at all. If it is true he is paying burn 5K to secure his site he must be the dumbest business man to ever run a website. Thick pockets can get thin really fast when you are an idiot

[crashoverkill]

Again SO WHAT
Whats teh point of all the C&P's

[mudbug_kid]

only thing he can afford,,waiting to purchase a keyboard

[kokes]

Originally posted by mudbug_kid
SPAM, about all an your nigger kokes can afford.

new frog and his monkey troope

HE is a bigot...a trailer trash bigot...the worst kind...mudfuck the racist asshole....punt his ass out of here...there is no call for that kind of nonsense in here...

[rustypupper]

02-14-2005 04:45 PM



Webguy
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Originally posted by CrashOverKill
No idea what he pays his server admin nor do I care. I do know that he makes a few hundred bucks off google adds at ncn the more trafic the more he makes. I also know that NCN isnt his income so to speak and that he has other ventures in and out of the hobbies.
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humm, looking at *****'s past... I think he has taken the domain. They all point to his site, what does that tell us??

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by kokes
HE is a bigot...a trailer trash bigot...the worst kind...mudfuck the racist asshole....punt his ass out of here...there is no call for that kind of nonsense in here...

ya , his bigotry has made people feel uncomfortable, I will have to do a little ethnic cleansing and kick his nonwhite ass to the curb.

[NewCardDude]

Originally posted by rustypupper
02-14-2005 04:45 PM



Webguy
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Originally posted by CrashOverKill
No idea what he pays his server admin nor do I care. I do know that he makes a few hundred bucks off google adds at ncn the more trafic the more he makes. I also know that NCN isnt his income so to speak and that he has other ventures in and out of the hobbies.
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humm, looking at *****'s past... I think he has taken the domain. They all point to his site, what does that tell us??

It tells us that it is time for you to get over it, there is nothing you or anyone can do that will change the way things are. Move along now.

[kokes]

Originally posted by NewCardDude
ya , his bigotry has made people feel uncomfortable, I will have to do a little ethnic cleansing and kick his nonwhite ass to the curb.

Ease up there froggy....if you let him stay, I may be able to convert the poor trailer trash soul in becoming a more subtle racist...besides, where else would mudfuck go....having said that, I realize how such comments could reduce overall traffic flow...sponsors always this as a real negative...

[kokes]

Perhaps we should do the democratic thing and put it to a vote as to whether mudfuck stays or not...I say, punt the ****...